Part(04-20)
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This is one of the most famous debate in Paltalk in 2007 Wesam Abd Allah is an Egyptian American Sheikh, he is specialized in Biblical studies and debated many Christian Scholars. His debates held in his room “oJJl Muslim Christian Dialogue oJJl” at Paltalk. Rev. John C. Rankin is the President of the Theological Education Institute (TEI), and of the Mars Hill Society in Hartford, CT. USA. Sheikh Wesam Abd Allah annouced his challenge to any Christian Scholar who can ascribe any book of the gospel to its real writer You can find his challenge in my channel videos http://muslimchristiandialogue.com/
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23 Responses to “Debate is bible word of god-pt(04-20) Wesam Abd Allah vs. John Rankin”
God is not bound by … God is not bound by Science… Science is nothing to God… God doesnt need the sun to create the planets… REGARDLESS.
Saying that God cannot create planets before the sun, is just wrong..
Genesis 1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was WITHOUT FORM.
He is twisting the scripture, the earth was without form, there was no life until after he created the light… verse 11.
I hate it when … I hate it when muslims say there are many different versions of the Bible… SHOW ME those many Bibles that show different verses two totally different things. ???? I hate that… it is the muslim most used BS…
essalamou alaykum wa rahmato ellahi wa barakatouho
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
allaho akbar
الله اكبر
انا عضو من البالتوك اشكر الأخ وسام
اشكرك يا أخ وسام يا محطم الديانة الوثنية المسيحية المحرفة
جعل الله مع عملك في ميزات حسناتك إن شاء الله يارب
امين
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته http://www.7akika.com/vb
essalamou alaykum wa rahmato ellahi wa barakatouho
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
allaho akbar
الله اكبر
انا عضو من البالتوك اشكر الأخ وسام
اشكرك يا أخ وسام يا محطم الديانة الوثنية المسيحية المحرفة
جعل الله مع عملك في ميزات حسناتك إن شاء الله يارب
امين
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته http://www.7akika.com/vb
Norred1432, Muslims are not the ones who say that there is different versions of the bible; it’s your Christians scholars. Beside which bible you’re talking about, the protestant one with 66 books or the catholic one with73 books. Also your bible testifies that it’s corrupted by itself in [NIV][Jer.23.36][But you must not mention ‘the oracle of the LORD’ again, because every man’s own word becomes his oracle and so you distort the words of the living God, the LORD Almighty, our God.] And also in [NIV][Jer.8.8][‘How can you say, We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD, when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely.]
two persons reverted to islam immediately after the debate
that debate occured in moslim christain dialogue room on paltalk–middle east sector owned by WESAM
I was present t the debate when it took place, it is for sure to make me belive in some thing my mind has to accept it,besides it should not be against any physics or well known sience, even the writter of the bibles are unknown,all i heard from christians asumtions and conclusions nothing of what jesus said and teached.All the things in the bible he said they said never what christ said, never said worship me always worship the father that sent me,where did he say i came for the big sin,all of it from he said they aid johm, peter, and the rest,all i ask read the bible with open mind,dont make your judgement from what you hear from what they preach to you the bible is so clear in so many verses(read Norred1432)and dont hate christ said even love your enamies that is prefectly indicate you never read your bible correct…….
I was present at the debate when it took place, it is for sure to make me belive in some thing my mind has to accept it,besides it should not be against any physics or well known sience, even the writter of the bibles are unknown,all i heard from christians asumtions and conclusions nothing of what jesus said and teached.All the things in the bible he said they said never what christ said, never said worship me always worship the father that sent me,where did he say i came for the big sin,all of it from he said they aid john, peter, and the rest,all i ask read the bible with open mind,dont make your judgement from what you hear from what they preach to you the bible is so clear in so many verses(read Norred1432)and dont hate christ said even love your enamies that is prefectly indicate you never read your bible correct…….
my friend u asks for different versions with different verses total different in meaning ok there is one in many as :
in cornitians 1 ( ] if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain. )
look at this site http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7651105.stm
its is the oldest bible found in the history so it is the more realple one in its corrective it has no refer to the raising of jeses so shall we do wt paul said that your faith is in vain????
why in acts (3:13) it says
The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.
it refers to jesus as his son..!!!
while the same versus acts (3:13) but in the american standared version it says
The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Servant Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied before the face of Pilate, when he had determined to release him.
here is the site to be sure http://online-bible-study.net/american-standard-version-online-bible/Acts/3/
where it refers here to jesus as his servant not son?? i think u cannt deny the great big defferince between servent and son??? any one can know the defferience and will know that god’s servent cannt be god and god ’s servent can be also god”s messenger
is that afabriction u did before by changeing the translation just to try to deny that jesus is an hournable messenger of god and his servent?? and changed it to his son that u added??
The Science which we gived by The God Alllah Says ” The Bible is NOT THE WORD OF GOD ”
we the muslims have the role to judge on words if that is from god or No and The Role is words from God dose not change or have a change in it , but the word of others have……
God created the world with magnificent system , so the word of God must prove that system and be on the system level which talk about.
finally ,I hope that we all find the truth where ever it is
As i am a muslim i would like to give a response to your first comment my friend as you said that god is not bound by science you have phrased it quite wrongly because in the quran alot of things have been proven to be correct by science which confirms its reliability for example the speed of light which has been phrased in the quran and scientists were able to find the result in numbers turning out to be the same which has been found out by science including a whole different things please see the book “the bible the quran and science” by maurice bucaille
To Norred1432
if you want to hear the contradictions on the many bibles that Christians believe in please stop by this room “oJJl Muslim Christian Dialogue oJJl” In Paltalk and you will get ACTUAL proof from the bible.
to give you a taste… here are couple of them:
1==
2SA 6:23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.
2SA 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite.
which one is correct???
2==== the question is When did Baasha die???
1KI 16:6-8 26th year of the reign of Asa
2CH 16:1 36th year of the reign of Asa
TWO completely different dates, in fact there are 10 years difference between the two dates, which one are we supposed to believe???
is the bible the word of God???can you prove it??
I hope to see you soon in paltalk so we can discuss these issues.
Suleimen
yeah , Norred1432
you hate it , ok
but it is the fact , it is the truth
see that book and you will know that there are many diffrent versions , not translations as they claimed http://www.jamaat.net/bible/BibleIntro.html
Hi Norred1432!!
It seems that your knowledge about christianity is very limited. Plz visit the website of the sheikh: http://muslimchristiandialogue.com/
You’ll find the contradictions, errors, etc. in the bible.
Wesam Abdullah is one of the most stupid figure in Paltalk, I have heard him many times , he’s such a filthy liar , besides his english is very worse… I have no respect to him or any other terrorist …. Omar , Palestine
Not only what was mentioned in the debate, but also it was Scientifically verified that the bible has more than 500.000 contradictions on its pages….
if it is really the word of God it could never show such gigantic number of contradictions with modern Science which is created by the same God!!!
@Norred1432:
why catholics, in them bible are 72 books and in bible Protestants are 66 books … ????* Please Read Genesis 1 : 24-27 and Genesis 2 : 7-19.!!! too, Matthew 1 : 16 and Luke 3 : 23 !!! you want mor? …
What is the Difference Between Protestant and Catholic Bibles?
The Old Testament
The First Christian Bible
At the time the Christian Bible was being formed, a Greek translation of Jewish Scripture, the Septuagint, was in common use and Christians adopted it as the Old Testament of the Christian Bible. However, around 100 A.D., Jewish rabbis revised their Scripture and established an official canon of Judaism which excluded some portions of the Greek Septuagint. The material excluded was a group of 15 late Jewish books, written during the period 170 B.C. to 70 A.D., that were not found in Hebrew versions of the Jewish Scripture. Christians did not follow the revisions of Judaism and continued to use the text of the Septuagint as the Old Testament.
Protestant Bibles
In the 1500s, Protestant leaders decided to organize the Old Testament material according to the official canon of Judaism rather than the Septuagint. They moved the Old Testament material which was not in the Jewish canon into a separate section of the Bible called the Apocrypha. So, Protestant Bibles then included all the same material as the earlier Bible, but it was divided into two sections: the Old Testament and the Apocrypha. Protestant Bibles included the Apocrypha until the mid 1800s, and the King James Version was originally published with the Apocrypha. However, the books of the Apocrypha were considered less important, and the Apocrypha was eventually dropped from most Protestant editions.
Catholic and Orthodox Bibles
The Roman Catholic and Orthodox Churches did not follow the Protestant revisions, and they continue to base their Old Testament on the Septuagint. The result is that these versions of the the Bible have more Old Testament books than most Protestant versions. Catholic Old Testaments include 1st and 2nd Maccabees, Baruch, Tobit, Judith, The Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach (Ecclesiasticus), additions to Esther, and the stories of Susanna and Bel and the Dragon which are included in Daniel. Orthodox Old Testaments include these plus 1st and 2nd Esdras, Prayer of Manasseh, Psalm 151 and 3rd Maccabees.
Part(04-20)